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Your Views on Dubstep going mainstream?
- Thread starter bizzle
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i can respect the music itself and the producers, but its the people who latch onto it who ruin it. Some people will only like it because its the "In thing" and all their mates listen to it. A lot of schoolkids seem to be into it at the mo.
When they go out to clubs (not the kids, lol) they say "Got any dubstep", not because they like it, but its the only thing they know and they think it makes them look cool.
The same thing happened a few years back with garage, or UK garage. every tweenybopper was into it and MTV played the shite non stop. Oh, and Aiya Napa was the "New" Ibiza. Yep, that lasted 5 minutes.
Once the kids grow up, the commercial dubstep will die and you will be left with the underground stuff for the die hard fans, which they probably prefer.
When they go out to clubs (not the kids, lol) they say "Got any dubstep", not because they like it, but its the only thing they know and they think it makes them look cool.
The same thing happened a few years back with garage, or UK garage. every tweenybopper was into it and MTV played the shite non stop. Oh, and Aiya Napa was the "New" Ibiza. Yep, that lasted 5 minutes.
Once the kids grow up, the commercial dubstep will die and you will be left with the underground stuff for the die hard fans, which they probably prefer.
DJ VibeOne
Mega Producer
I think it used to really really suck. I had a few friends who were in to it before it went big and they were trying to get me in to it and it was just dull, boring monotonous rubbish with tracks that didn't really go anywhere.
As it got bigger, the more interesting the actual tracks got. It drew influences from other genres and the drops and bass got a lot bigger, the tracks actually had light and shade, and it got a LOT better, hence more mainstream. I really don't think it's a case of people liking it just because it's cool, people like it because they actually liked it, it just so happened that Radio 1 etc actually played it, and exposed a LOT of people to something they would never have heared otherwise. If it didn't get radio play, people wouldn't know what it was, and be confused if they heard it on a night out, then ask for Lady Gaga. People on a night out want to hear what they already know, your job as a DJ is not to educate people, it is to be an entertainer and give people what they want. Because it is on radio, they want to hear dubstep, because they actually like it. It's simple.
Only people who truly believe their music taste is better than everyone elses would be cynical enough to say people only like it because it is cool.
A lot of people would like a lot of music if it got radio play. The only reason people bone pop music up the ass is because it's on radio and record companies shove it down people's throats, and the average person just doesn't have time to go digging around the internet for different music.
Dubstep became popular because it became good, and unique. It became mainstream because radio picked it up. Not just because it's cool.
As it got bigger, the more interesting the actual tracks got. It drew influences from other genres and the drops and bass got a lot bigger, the tracks actually had light and shade, and it got a LOT better, hence more mainstream. I really don't think it's a case of people liking it just because it's cool, people like it because they actually liked it, it just so happened that Radio 1 etc actually played it, and exposed a LOT of people to something they would never have heared otherwise. If it didn't get radio play, people wouldn't know what it was, and be confused if they heard it on a night out, then ask for Lady Gaga. People on a night out want to hear what they already know, your job as a DJ is not to educate people, it is to be an entertainer and give people what they want. Because it is on radio, they want to hear dubstep, because they actually like it. It's simple.
Only people who truly believe their music taste is better than everyone elses would be cynical enough to say people only like it because it is cool.
A lot of people would like a lot of music if it got radio play. The only reason people bone pop music up the ass is because it's on radio and record companies shove it down people's throats, and the average person just doesn't have time to go digging around the internet for different music.
Dubstep became popular because it became good, and unique. It became mainstream because radio picked it up. Not just because it's cool.
toMOOSE
Mega Producer
i pretty much agree with vibeone ere. I used to think that dubstep was just a load of rubbish wobbley noise. but now dubstep has progress and produced some amazing tracks and remixes
for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlmUaCbsh7M
for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlmUaCbsh7M
picaflor
Artist
dubstep sure has gotten mainstream. Britney's new album is chockfull of it. but I still love it. Every 10 years or so, music changes. and i think dubstep might be the music of the 10's. I enjoy dubstep while smoking hookah. Yeah a lot of people like it cause it's the in thing. but in a few years, they'll be over it and onto something else and we'll be here just like we were before it was popular.
I'll just say that I love this song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7kEYuRCV_Y
I'll just say that I love this song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7kEYuRCV_Y
Sound Elements
Mega Producer
I really hate the sound of DubSteb. Just seems like like just some random sound over a breakbeat. Only dubsteb song i have found i like is this
Red Stalker
Artist
I am a DubStep producer and I definately see that some of the big names are getting sold out these days. I'm talking about: Rusko, Bar9 and some others.
In my opinion DubStep should remain an Underground genre... Mainstream just kills music, and we don't want that with Dubstep.
It's not wrong to be signed with a lable and sell your tunes @ iTunes, Discogs and other pages...Producers MUST cover their expences (Software, Hardware and other stuff)
In my opinion DubStep should remain an Underground genre... Mainstream just kills music, and we don't want that with Dubstep.
It's not wrong to be signed with a lable and sell your tunes @ iTunes, Discogs and other pages...Producers MUST cover their expences (Software, Hardware and other stuff)
DJ VibeOne
Mega Producer
I hate popular things too.
Mario Santiago
Superstar DJ
I have also noticed that Dubstep is becoming more popular. I still don't play it in my clubs but I have produced my own bootlegs for my radio mix-shows. I also agree with VibeOne. As professional DJs, our job is to entertain, not educate. But I also disagree with the notion that just because Dubstep will get more mainstream (generally accepted), that it will get worse. There are heaps of underground dubstep that is also just as awful. So just because something is underground doesn't mean it's great, and just because it's mainstream doesn't mean it's terrible. That is also a very pretentious point of view. I think this is an opportunity for the genre to get some light and for us DJs and producers to expand our repertoire. I know dubstep is not as easy and straight forward to mix as 4x4 house, but with todays' production tools it's easy to make the intros and outros for them.
DJ VibeOne
Mega Producer
DJ Oslo is my new favourite member.
I'm also a dubstep producer. For those mistaking dubstep for a bunch of dirty robot noises over a half-timed breakbeat and that only, here are a few examples of the ORIGINAL style.
And a new one from Skream:
It's inevitable that dubstep will eventually go mainstream. But it doesn't matter because the underground will always be alive and well.
And raves like these will continue regardless!
And a new one from Skream:
It's inevitable that dubstep will eventually go mainstream. But it doesn't matter because the underground will always be alive and well.
And raves like these will continue regardless!
Due to Dubstep's increasing popularity, I think it's inevitable that there will be a lot of poorly made tracks overwhelming those made by those who have produced it well for a long time. I've already heard a lot of crappy Dubstep tracks made by wannabe producers, when not too long ago there was hardly any Dubstep that I didn't like.
In fact, I think my favorites were like some of the ones posted above, from when it was brand new and completely unknown. However, it remains to be seen where the genre will be 5, 10, even 15 years from now.
In fact, I think my favorites were like some of the ones posted above, from when it was brand new and completely unknown. However, it remains to be seen where the genre will be 5, 10, even 15 years from now.
Mario Santiago
Superstar DJ
This is nothing new under the sun. You can apply the same principle to DJing, Producing music, mashups, etc. The increasing popularity is going to prompt and encourage many with little knowledge and experience to join the fray and produce something that doesn't sound good or correct. But in general, I like that Dubstep is getting more popular. Professionally, it will be fun to work with this genre and introduce it into my sets.
toMOOSE
Mega Producer
but surely the idea of making music is for people to hear it right, so why get upset about more people hearing it? yeah dubstep may end up on a commercial track but is it really bringing anyone's life to an end honestly? but on the bright side we've started to see producers experiment by mixing dubstep with other alternative genres. for example this new track by Korn has been co produced by skrillex and i think its pretty awesome. who would have thought dubstep and nu metal would work so well together?
G
Goodfella
DJ Oslo and VibeOne might be right , that mainstream does not always mean crappy and underground always means good, but in a general way, I have to disagree on that one. To me, in a general way, mainstream does mean crappy, and not only in dubstep. Look at what rap music has become, or even bands like Muse or Coldplay.
I listened to a lot of dubstep during 2006-2010, I mean, a lot, and I guarantee I have seen the scene getting poorer and poorer. Producers used to experiment a lot in their songs, it was not only a matter of "Wobble" shit and "drops". Now to me, dubstep seems sooooo generic. It's like 90% of the songs are : some female vocals sounding like club vocals, one or two drops, and a succession of generic wobble basses. I don't like this orientation of dubstep. So i basically quit listening to dubstep because I don't recognize myself in it anymore. I only listen to the chill/ambiant dubstep (Burial, etc ..) these days, and the old dubstep that I liked. Another sign of dubstep really going mainstrem (for the worse) is that it seems that now, everything crappy electro-mainstream artist is trying to incorporate dubstep breaks into their songs.
Of course, there are exceptions, if you look hard enough, you will find some new good dubstep sh*t.
Again, it's only my opinion but yeah, mainstream = crap.
I listened to a lot of dubstep during 2006-2010, I mean, a lot, and I guarantee I have seen the scene getting poorer and poorer. Producers used to experiment a lot in their songs, it was not only a matter of "Wobble" shit and "drops". Now to me, dubstep seems sooooo generic. It's like 90% of the songs are : some female vocals sounding like club vocals, one or two drops, and a succession of generic wobble basses. I don't like this orientation of dubstep. So i basically quit listening to dubstep because I don't recognize myself in it anymore. I only listen to the chill/ambiant dubstep (Burial, etc ..) these days, and the old dubstep that I liked. Another sign of dubstep really going mainstrem (for the worse) is that it seems that now, everything crappy electro-mainstream artist is trying to incorporate dubstep breaks into their songs.
Of course, there are exceptions, if you look hard enough, you will find some new good dubstep sh*t.
Again, it's only my opinion but yeah, mainstream = crap.