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An idea for DIY acapella threads...

kaeovo

kaeovo

Superstar DJ
Is it possible to add (mandatory?) "rate this DIY" to all DIY topics? Some of them are mediocre at best and I think it would help people not waste precious REPs. The best possible solution would be something like this: for a reply on a DIY acapella, you lose 2 REPs and if you rate the DIY in question, you get one REP back. How about it? Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
 
Personally, I Think It's Pointless To Rate A DIY... Everyone Has The Option To Go Back And Edit Their Post, So They Can Simply Edit It And Write "This DIY Sucks" Or "This DIY Is Great"... I Think People Are Just Lazy... If You're Worried About People Using Their Precious Rep, How Do You Think The People Will Feel To Lose 2 Rep On A DIY, And Then Have To Go Back To Rate In Order To Gain One Back??? I Think That's An Idea Just Waiting To Blow Up In Our Face... The Only Other Thing I Could Recommend Is The "5-Star" Rating System We Have On The "Your Remixes" Section, But People Don't Really Use It... I Think All DIY's Are Worthless... They All Fail At Some Point... Either They Have To Much Artifact Bleed Through, Or The DIYer Used To Much Filters, And It Has That "Under Water" Sound... Some Are "Decent", but Then You Have To Think... How Can You Be "Professional" With A DIY...

Thanks For Your Input, My Word Is Not Final, This Is Only My Opinion... I'm Sure The Rest Of The Staff Will Chime In...
 
ADDiCT, thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it. People really are lazy, but with my idea they'd only lose one REP (the same as now) with a small, but important difference: those who visit the thread after them don't have to lose even one REP if the DIY collects too many bad ratings. With the current situation, what stimulates people to come back and rate the DIY in their posts? Nothing. I think and hope that this forum is not about leeching. My idea goes along the same line, nothing else. We share and/or contribute any way we can.

And I don't think all DIYs are bad. There are some great ones and that's another reason why my idea could be useful (to separate the good from the bad). Also, if people help others by pointing to what's good and what's bad, it could (maybe) stimulate people to come up with better stuff.

Sure, having a studio acapella will help you make a better sounding remix, but it's not a deal breaker for me. Not even the best studio acapella can save a crappy remix. It'll only sound better, but it'll still be crap (just better sounding crap, that is).
 
That's What The Chat Is For, You Say Something, Share An Opinion, Someone Replies... LoL...

Don't Get Me Wrong, Your Idea Is A Good One, But It's Almost Like We Are "Forcing" The Members To Go Back And Rate The DIY In Order To Receive One Of The 2 Reps Back... I Just Don't Think That's Fair...

Now, With The Option To Edit Your Own Post, You Would Think People Would Go Back And Say That It Is Good/Bad DIY... But They Don't... The Only Thing They Care About Is If They Lost A Rep To A Dead Link... I Mean if You Are Downloading A DIY, Good Or Bad, You're Still Taking A Risk... It's A DIY... LoL... Like You Said, They Can Have A Crappy Remix, And A Studio Pella Would Just Make It A Better Sounding Crappy Mix... Now, What About A Great Mix, With A DIY... Don't You Think Using A DIY Knocks Down Your Rep As A Remixer/Producer... It's Almost Like You're Good, But Not Good Enough To Get The Studio Pella And Make Your Mix "Official"...

Me Being In The "Biz", I Know That Labels Are Not Interested In A Mix Using A DIY (No Matter How Clean) And No Matter How Sick The Mix Is... It's Best To Make A Mix Using The DIY (For Producing Purposes), But Only Render The Instruments, Not The Vox, And Promote That... You Will Get A Lot Farther Sending In Your Instrumental Mix To A Rep, Than Your Mix With The DIY...

No, All DIY's Aren't Bad At All... Glamour Services Just Posted A Very Clean And Useable DIY Of "Skyfall" (Which Can Be Found Here: http://literecords.com/x2/showthread.php/19352-Adele-Skyfall-(Glamour-Count-To-10-Acapella)-ALMOST-STUDIO-CLEAN-LOSSLESS). But Being A "Professional" Remixer, It Doesn't Look Professional To Use DIY's... And Being That It Was A Good DIY, Shit... I'll Even Say It's A Great DIY, Almost Everyone Who downloaded/Replied Said "Thanks, I Hope It's Good", But No One Went Back To Edit And Say "This Is A Good/Great DIY"... They Don't Care... All People Care About Is Getting What They Want, And Leaving...

It's A Cruel Effed Up World We Live In, But Unfortunately, That's How It Is... Like I Said In My First post, I'm Sure Other Staff/Members Will Chime In, But Ultimately It's Up To Brad... If He Feels This Is A Good Idea And Will Promote Productivity On The Site, I'm Sure He'll Take It Into Consideration...
 
I think its a shit idea....

Unless we brought a rating thingy in for all the stuff in the download vault it would be pointless....and that would get abused.

people complain when stuff is shit

and they will still complain if they can rate files or not.

download it,take the hit,if its shit edit your post and move on

just my opinion
 
It is for statements like this that I want to start a lets get addict his job back petition!!!!!!!
 
Exactly. And when ADDiCT writes "Adele's Skyfall DIY is very good", I download it right away (which I probably wouldn't have done without his recommendation).
 
Thats why users report/give feedback on threads.....to assist other members in deciding whether or not to download....

Here is an example

http://literecords.com/x2/showthrea...Svabo-Bech-Raise-Your-Weapon?highlight=weapon

Except when its as addict says....they have nothing to complain about and they take their shit and leave with no feedback....

.........So what I deduce from this is....if there are complaints about a diy.....there must be an issue (as in the example I gave)

If users have said fuck all then it must be good (as in the example addict used)

Seems like a pretty good system to me
 
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kaeovo said:
With the current situation, what stimulates people to come back and rate the DIY in their posts? Nothing. I think and hope that this forum is not about leeching.
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This site is not about leeching....thats why there is a rep system and very good staff to keep you all in your place.

I disagree with your nothing statement in answer to your own question......What stimulates people to come back and edit their post on a share is when they arent happy or they have someting to complain about.So if you see a diy that you want....wait for a few others to complain,if they dont then Im pretty sure it will be ok.We are only talking about losing 1 rep here btw......not $500 and a free whore for a night.
 
Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. It's exactly as ADDiCT says it is most of the time. But if you want LR to be a site where people come in, grab what they want, say thanks (just because they have to) and leave, that's fine by me. My idea was more about stimulating some interaction between people so that they come back and edit when they're happy with what they find, not only when they have something to complain about. Cheers.
 
We Can "Want" LR To Be Whatever We Want... We Can't Make Anyone Do Anything... We Have Multiple Things For People To Do Here... Chat, Discussions, Production, Collaborations, We Even Had Games At One Point... No One Gives A Rats Ass About The Other Stuff, The Truth Is, They Are Here To Download, And That's It...

All We Were Saying Is That Adding A System For Rating DIY's May Be Pointless Because NO ONE Says Anything Unless They Lost A Rep On A Dead Link (Which Means All They Care About Is Their Rep And Downloading)...

We Have The 5-Star Rating System For Remixes (Which I Think Is More Important Than DIY's), No One Uses It... So What Will Be Different On DIY Threads???
 
Personally, I can't believe no one rates remixes as it can get you a free REP (which is great). I'll sure contribute because it really is very cool. While you say that you can want whatever you want, I believe that you can make people do whatever you want too. I mean, it's not like you'd be twisting their arms or anything. What I proposed would stimulate people to contribute, at least their rating (exactly BECAUSE they care about their REPs since they'd lose two instead of one if they don't rate DIYs). But please don't mind, it was just a friendly suggestion. I was just surprised it was met with such a loud and firm no. For admins, it a shit idea. Let's leave it at that. Peace and stay cool.
 
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People Don't Rate Remixes Because They Don't Care... LoL... This Is What I'm Trying To Say... We Have Tried Many Ways To Get People To Contribute, 1 Being The Rep System, Share Something To Earn Rep Rather Than Buy... Even With Our Remix Competitions, I Have Given Up Rare Stems From My Own Personal Archive To Get A Remix Comp Going, Brad Even Put Up Cash Prizes, People Dropped Out... What More Can We Do... If People Are Even Turning Down Cash, There's Not Much Hope.... Like I Said, People Only Want To Download...

It Was Never A Loud And Firm No... We Took It Into Consideration, I Left The Subject Open For Other Members To Chime In, And They Gave Their Opinion... It Was 4 No's VS 1 Yes...
 
kaeovo said:
Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. It's exactly as ADDiCT says it is most of the time. But if you want LR to be a site where people come in, grab what they want, say thanks (just because they have to) and leave, that's fine by me. My idea was more about stimulating some interaction between people so that they come back and edit when they're happy with what they find, not only when they have something to complain about. Cheers.
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Nope,I did not misunderstand,I just think its not the most important or greatest idea in the world.I didn't mean to offend,I was purely giving my opinion same as yourself.I think things are fine as they are.It would be more important to rate studio acapellas or stems or multitracks....I think its a given that most DIY's ain't gonna be shit hot.


kaeovo said:
.....But please don't mind, it was just a friendly suggestion. I was just surprised it was met with such a loud and firm no. For admins, it a shit idea. Let's leave it at that. Peace and stay cool.
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No worries!

:)

ADDiCT said:
It Was Never A Loud And Firm No... We Took It Into Consideration, I Left The Subject Open For Other Members To Chime In, And They Gave Their Opinion... It Was 4 No's VS 1 Yes...
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Yup!
 
"I Think All DIY's Are Worthless... They All Fail At Some Point... Either They Have To Much Artifact Bleed Through, Or The DIYer Used To Much Filters"

I've made diy pellas that are better than studio. Case in point are studio acapellas ripped from 12" singles. Some pressings are just low quality and shitty, or maybe there's some percussion like a lot of 80's pellas on vinyl. maybe there's a pressing glitch (Mos Def-Ms. Booty) or just some clicks and pops that even brand new records will have. I'll take a direct cd single rip and make a damn near perfect acapella often better than the studio from vinyl. I've gotten so good at it, that I've fooled people into thinking I'm using studio in some cases. :)
 
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